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Short film directed by Joe Shaw. Cinematography by Philip Bloom.

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Director: Joe Shaw Rating: 0.00

Tags: Bloom confession Drama folkestone harbour Letus Extreme philip priest railway station

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Director of Photography: Philip Bloom Rating: 5.00

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Willem Van den Broeck

October 09, 2008 09:42 AM

Brilliant.

I'd love to see how you chose your angles and how you setup the dolly.

On the whole, i find the directing and the story as well as the actors all very good.

Thomas Roberts

October 09, 2008 11:54 AM

Very Nice!

How long did you take to shoot this? In the first two minutes, was the sound recorded by wireless microphones? Did you use a mixer or double system sound with the Ex1? I really liked the Hyrbrid Kodak/Fuji film look you achieved.

Well done...Is this the shape of things to come?

Thomas

Joe Shaw

October 09, 2008 03:21 PM

Willem, I storyboarded the film in advance which kept us on track. Within that there was enough flexibility to alter shots - which was done in collaboration with Phil. In addition he would suggest other shots which was invaluable. We mostly shot the storyboard, although a couple of shots were dropped as we ran out of time. We had a jib for the day, but not enough time to use it. Next time.

Thomas, it was shot in one day - in fact about 7-8 hours in total. Very tough and meant having to shoot a ton of pick-ups which I don't like doing, but the actors were great with. I'll add an article soon to talk about the shooting.

Radio mics were used throughout as well as boom where possible. We had an excellent sound recordist who had a full drama cart - so yes, mixer etc.

Willem Van den Broeck

October 09, 2008 03:30 PM

Thanks for the information, Joe

The sound i didn't mention, but it struck me indeed as very good like all other aspects.

I'm a great fan of British cinema and cinematography, and here it is no different. You amaze with beautiful images, a clever script, believeable acting, so a job very well done.

Armin Ruede

October 13, 2008 06:03 PM

Fantastic location & beautifully shot. But the acting is painfully bad.

Joe Shaw

October 14, 2008 03:12 AM

Armin, thanks for your comment. The film has been seen over 4000 times on various sites, but as of yet no-one has thought the acting was bad - that alone painfully bad. Perhaps you are seeing something that they are not. I'd be happy for you to elaborate. It would be more in keeping with the spirit of XR than a simple one sentence put-down.

roy reyes

October 14, 2008 12:46 PM

On Film

This movie is inspiring it captures life on dealing with our own skeletons. The script is simple, subject matter is focus which makes it easy to understand and ponder while watching it. The cam work steady shots framing lighting and sound fills are just overwhelming.

It looks pretty simple but im sure this took a lot of creativity. a well balance direction of the film.

GOOD JOB.. any sequel or prequel ?

cheers!

Armin Ruede

October 14, 2008 04:26 PM

Hey Joe. Sorry if my comment came across a bit blunt. I'm happy to elaborate though.

These actors seem to have been trained for the stage. Their facial expressions are over the top (oh, if the eyebrows could sit still for just one moment). They over-egg their "oh, so dramatic" pauses completely. They freeze their expression/persona while waiting for the other to deliver his line... in other words, they are visibly just reciting lines from memory - to my mind that's not acting for camera.

I should point out that I feel the same criticism can be levelled at the majority of British acting. The tradition in the UK is very strong on acting for stage, and it is my impression that this doesn't make for good screen acting. British actors, including these, need to work harder to achieve naturalism and subtlety in front of a camera. The methods employed on stage just don't work on screen.

Willem Van den Broeck

October 14, 2008 04:43 PM

I had the same impression as Armin had, but only the first minute. And I know why : the subject is just so intense, that one doesn't know/understand why the young man reacts so heavily to the interaction with the priest. That until the subject of child abuse comes up, and then it all makes sense. So that's why i think the acting is very good. It was just a bit puzzling at first to me.

About British cinema I don't agree with Armin, cause there's no cinema in the world that's more real life than cinema from the UK (including Scotland with Ken Loach and many more, and certainly Ireland and Northern Ireland too)
Even Love Actually looks real, while the story is anything but. This realism is also the reason I love British cinema so much.

For total overacting, i recall Latin-American cinema does that quite a lot, though nothing from Brazil (a lot of brilliant movies I've ever seen)

I'll stop here now, cause i don't want to hijack Joe and Philip's comments space. :)

Joe Shaw

October 15, 2008 03:38 AM

Armin,

Whilst I appreciate you at least elaborating on your comment, I could not disagree with you more. It sounds like you have a predjudice against 'British acting' which is getting in the way of your judgement. Let me tell you a little bit about me to explain where I'm coming from. I trained for 3 years as an actor at one of the top drama schools in London and I have worked in the industry for 13 years in radio, TV and film. My whole family are actors.

If ever there was going to be a tough critic of a performance, it's me.

What you fail to appreciate, is that this young guy is confronting a man who sexually abused him when he was younger. This is possibly the most disturbing and most dramatic thing he will do in his life. On top of that he is carrying the burden of his own twisted guilt.

When I watch the film - I see that. Not eyebrows moving...
When I watch the film, I see in their performances every nuance, every painful thought - not 'oh so dramatic pauses'.

I believe this is what everyone else is seeing. Take a look here - http://www.vimeo.com/1907030 and see what people are saying about the acting.

Armin Ruede

October 18, 2008 06:33 AM

Hey Joe. It sounds like you certainly are much better qualified to judge the performances here. So, I bow to your better judgement. From my own experience I know that getting a particular performance from your actors, achieving a particular style/look (however naturalistic or stylised that might be) is very difficult. As I understand, you have achieved what you were after and the feedback you got suggests that your audience loves it too. So, I'm sincere when I say: well done!

I also think you are right that I have a prejudice toward 'British acting', having spotted what I consider to be 'the problem with British acting' too many times. It is clear that this is a very personal view and you and I will not agree on a definition of good acting.

But to illustrate the difference in style that we are talking about here, let me use a simple example that is fresh in my mind. I was recently watching old episodes of the US sitcom Friends - the ones in which Helen Baxendale makes an appearance. The difference between her acting style and that of her fellow US actors was eyebrow-raisingly obvious. Her delivery came across as (inappropriately) over the top. She looked like a bad actor. Which - I know - she is not. But she is schooled in this stage-acting style that according to me fails in front of the camera.

Philip Bloom

October 19, 2008 10:55 AM

Iiam

This is joe's film and it is up to him whether he wants it downloadable or not. All mine still are, fear not.

Armin! When I see you I shall slap you. A: for watching friends and B: for saying the acting was awful. I was in awe of stephen and Robert after watching them. I hate theatrical acting too and this certainly wasn't! Most of the acting was done in their faces, their expressions which by it's nature has to be screen acting.