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Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 Export Settings for Video Encoding

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March 12, 2008 02:26 AM  Views:8683   Favorited:2 Comments:73
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Encoding videos in general is a very confusing topic since one has to understand and have a lot of technical knowledge about encoders and decoders and the multitude of video formats. To further complicate matters tools such as Adobe Premiere Pro C3 make the job even more confusing with a multitude of presets out of the box, none of which seem to really apply to what most of us are trying to do.

Essentially, you’re either trying to encode a video for the Internet or for DVD/Blu-ray production. Your source video is either SD or HD. This article is written for those whose source video is HD and the intent is to publish videos to video hosting websites that support HD videos such as ExposureRoom. For DVD/Blu-ray I’ve found Adobe Premiere Pro CS3’s default presets pretty good.

Encoding for the Internet

I believe most people reading this blog want to encode videos for the web these days since it’s a very effective delivery mechanism and website’s such as ExposureRoom retain the HD quality of the source video making it viable to show off your productions to customers and prospective customers as well as family and friends.

You might want to take a look at my Videos.

Deinterlace

In the Export Settings dialog in Premiere Pro C3, switch to the “Output” tab (top left hand side of the dialog) and ensure that the Deinterlace check box is checked. This should be check by default, but make sure in any case.

Format

I’ve found that the Adobe Flash Video format renders the best contrast and color saturation. Quick Time videos tend to look the most faded, while the Window Media format is in between. Be aware that in order to play Adobe Flash Video files, you’ll need a Flash Video player (Not Flash Player, but Flash Video Player). If you need your raw videos (meaning you’re making your encoded files available directly via an FTP site or similar) playable on a PC as well as MAC, you should encode in Quick Time format, unless you’re providing the Flash Video player  as well.

Dimensions

Most video players perform best when the dimensions of your video are multiples of 16. I’m not going to get into the technical details behind this here, but just remember that. So you’re wondering why the 1080 HD dimensions (1920x1080) are not multiples of 16, right? Well, that’s because HD was not made for computers and when I said video players earlier I meant computer video players (Adobe Flash Video Player, QuickTime, Window Media Player etc.). Having said that, don’t be hell bent of this rule. It’s a good rule to know and to stick to when you can but it’s not a must.

Video Bit Rate

The Video bit rate is by far the most important from a quality stand point. It’s also almost entirely responsible for the physical size of the encoded video file. And you thought the dimensions would play a part too didn’t you? Dimensions do play a part, but an insignificant part. You can see for yourself by encoding the same source video to two different dimensions and keeping the video bit rate the same (and all other settings the same).

Too high a video bit rate can also be detrimental. For instance if you plan to make your videos available for download to your customers and friends and because you want them to see the best quality you encode your videos with say a video bit rate of 8,000. Some of your customers will be able to view the video while others may not. In general, a video with a higher bit rate requires a faster computer. You see in order to played back the video the player needs to decoded it while it’s being played back and the more bits the player has to decode per second the more work it has to do. A video encoded with a higher bit rate needs to be decoded at a higher bit rate as well. So if the video is jerky, it’s more than likely that the computer can’t handle the bit rate.

Even DVD players have a limit to the bit rate they can handle. This limit is usually 9,800. But this limit includes the audio bit rate as well. More about audio bit rate next.

There are two factors that really determine the video bit rate you should use:
1.    The dimensions of the video – Larger the dimensions, the higher the bitrate should/may need to be.
2.    Movement in the scene – If there is a lot of movement (especially fast movement) or a lot of panning or tilting, you’ll need to encode using a higher bit rate in order to make the video look decent and not be jerky.

CBR, VBR 1 Pass, VBR 2 Pass

This is another complicated topic. Suffice it to say that 99% of the time you should use VBR 2 Pass. VBR in general takes more time to encode and VBR 2 pass takes even more time to encode. VBR 2 Pass produces the smallest files. CBR tends to be the fastest to encode but produces larger files. If you’re burning a DVD or Blu-ray and you have more than enough room on the disk you can encode your video as CBR. VBR also taxes the playback computer more than CBR does.

Audio Bit Rate

By now you’ve probably figured out that bit rate is directly proportional to quality. And the size of the file is directly proportional to quality as well. And you’d be correct. Encoding is therefore a fine balance between quality and file size. Typically an audio bit rate of 224 is pretty decent (Close to CD quality) and most viewers won’t notice any loss is audio quality. Most MP3 download sites encode their audio files at 128 kbps. So if that quality is good for you then choose an audio bit rate of 128. Don’t try and encode at a higher bit rate than the original source audio, since that has no meaning. You’ll get a bloated file with no increase in audio quality. So the best thing to do is find out the source’s audio bit rate first and accordingly decide the audio encoding bit rate you should use.

HD Video encoding for Internet

Well a lot depends on the website you intend to upload your video to. YouTube will massacre your videos so encoding using a high bit rate (both audio and video) has no meaning. ExposureRoom supports HD video and allows playback at 720p. Your best option is to encode your videos at 3000kbps - 3,500kbps, with an audio bit rate (if the source audio bit rate supports it) of 192-384 kbps. Since dimensions don’t really influence the file size, you should probably use 1280x720 as the dimensions.

If you’re making your original files available for download, such that the viewer downloads the file to their computer first and then views them, keep in mind that even though a lot of people have high-speed internet access and wouldn’t mind waiting 20-30 minutes to download your videos, their computers may not be able to handle videos encoded at a very high bit rate. I’ve found a video bit rate of 5000kbps is a good limit to stick to.

If you’re making your videos available by embedding a video player such as QuickTime or Windows Media Player in a web page then keep the following in mind:
In order for a viewer to be able to view your video almost as soon as they click on the play button your video will need to be encoded with a maximum bit rate (audio    video) that is less than their download rate. For most home users this is around 384 to 768 kbps.

Comments



Armin Ruede    April 27, 2008 04:16 PM

That was useful, thank you!

Leanne    April 28, 2008 05:05 AM

Export to quicktime

Hiya,

I was wondering if you can help me as you seem to know ya stuff. I have a video at 720 x 576, 25 fps, aspect ratio 1.067 and the audio is 48hz 16 bit stereo sound. I need it exported to a quicktime file about 320 x 240 px for web, but everytime i export it using various settings the audio is always out of sync and runs faster, i just cant get it to match. When i save for .wmv its fine? Im using premier pro cs3 media encoder and wonder if you have any tips to what i should be looking for in the settings to make it sync up when exported?

Thanks

Shiv Kumar    April 28, 2008 05:11 AM

Have you tried setting the frame rate as "source" or same as source? It looks like a framerate issue. Also is 25fps the frame rate of the source video?

Leanne    April 28, 2008 06:28 AM

I've tried it at same source and 25fps and its still out. Which quicktime format and download preset would you recommend?...Also if the audio is 48000hz would i be exporting it at 32 bit with little or no endian?

I've been at this for 2 days now :(

Shiv Kumar    April 28, 2008 06:35 AM

Leanne,
Can you send me the video? please email me at skumar at exposureroom.com so I can give you an ftp site where you can upload the video.

   April 28, 2008 06:44 AM

The original video size is 4.8 gbs, its an avi file...so too big. I can give you a screen grab of the file properties... (plus my work will restrict me on sending it)

Shiv Kumar    April 28, 2008 06:47 AM

Oh ok, email me anyway so we can take this off line.

Shiv Kumar    April 28, 2008 07:02 AM

Hey Skumar,

I've emailed you...hopefully its the right address :D

Jock Hewitt    April 28, 2008 08:51 PM

Export HD video using Premier Pro CS3 to Flash

Hello Shiv,
I am having problems understanding how to create suitable FLV files from HDV source material (1440 x 1080)with Adobe Media Encoder in Adobe Premier Pro CS3. The videos I create for my web site are poor quality - low resolution, as you would see on my web site at http://www.iplayerhd.com/player/2da68caa-e130-4c79-9fb3-a33c76da6e27.aspx
Clearly I have a lot to learn about encoding HD video to Flash, even though I have seen your excellent tutorial on the subject. Would you very kindly suggest what basic export settings I should be using for HDV material?
Best regards
Jock

Shiv Kumar    April 28, 2008 08:59 PM

Jock,

This post is about HDV :). To improve quality you need to increase bitrate. That's all there is to it. Increasing bitrate increases the file size. I think the thing to do is to tell me what bitrate you're using. As mentioned in this article for HD video you should have a minimum video bitrate of 3000kbps.

Jock Hewitt    April 29, 2008 02:58 AM

HDV compression

The video in the link provided used 800, 1200 and 1500 bit rates (the host recognises the capacity of the viewers internet connection). Frame size is 640 x 320

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 03:13 AM

You should probably double up the bit rates for the dimensions in use if you need more quality. But remember that most pople's bandwidth won't support more than your lowest quality (800). You also have to factor in the bit rate of the audio. So total download bandwidth speed required = video bit rate plus audio bitrate.

Another thing you should note is that movement in video requires more bit rate. Fast pans and zoom as you have in that video will require a video encoded with a higher bit rate.

Larger dimensions require a higher bitrate as well. I hope that answers all your questions?

Jock Hewitt    April 29, 2008 03:33 AM

HDV compression

Thank you!
It seems then that using Adobe Pro I need better software codecs for quality web presentation i.e., either Flix Exporter 8 or Flix Pro (I am not sure if Flix Exporter works with Adobe Pro). I had thought theAdobe Media Encoder would deliver the right result - obviously not. Would you agree?
Thanks for your time.

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 03:40 AM

No :). You get the On VP6 codec with PPro CS3 (Not sure what Adobe Pro is). If what you want is videos encoded in the flv container using On2 VP6 (that is Flix) you can do that using PPro CS3.

Not sure how you concluded from my ealier reply that you can't use Adobe :).

karl bib    April 29, 2008 05:02 PM

Quicktime encoding

Hi shiv, sounds like you know a lot about premierepro cs3! I have question that I hope you can help me with: When I want to make a quicktime from DVCPRO footage 720p/24 from Premiere Pro CS3, the sound is out of sync when played in quicktime player, but when played in the DVD player (VLC) on the PC, the sound is in sync. I have tried encoding with different bitrates, but the result is the same. It seems as if you can't set the audio bit rate in the Adobe Media Encoder. Do you have any idea what the problem is, and how I can make a quicktime that is in sync...sometimes it is only in the first 15 sec that it is out of sync. I really hope you can help me out - I have been up 4 nights trying to solve this...

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 07:16 PM

Karl,

The bit rate does not effect the audio in terms of being in sych or not. So first thing is not to worry yourself trying to find the right bitrate!

As far as audio being out of synch, well I can't really help here except to tell you that make sure your time line in PPro is for the footage in use (in this case 24p footage). If the time line is for 30p or any other frame rate then of course the audio will be out of synch :).

Karl Bib    April 29, 2008 07:23 PM

Quicktime

Hi Shiv, thanks for your response!
As I said it seems as if the file is worst out of sync in the beginning, almost as if it has to run itself up to speed...
what audio and video codec would you recommend for making a HD sequence (720p/24) into a Quicktime?
I really appreciate our help.

Karl Bib    April 29, 2008 07:27 PM

I meant "your help" :-)

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 07:30 PM

The codec I would use is H.264.

I think your audio out of synch issue is related to the choice of timeline in PPro.

Karl Bib    April 29, 2008 07:34 PM

What audio codec would you recommend (AAC etc)?
I am not sure what you mean about choice of timeline? I use the ones that are below the pictures in the sequence.
As I said, it plays completely in sync when played in the DVD player (VLC), and when I encode for wmv and flv the sound is in sync and ok...?
Thank you very much for your help!

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 07:43 PM

AAC is a good choice for audio codec.

When you start a new project on PPro CS3, you've got to choose project preset. In your case you need to pick the DCVPROHD - 720p - DVCPROHD 720p 24p project preset.

   April 29, 2008 07:53 PM

Hi Shiv, we did choose these project and audio settings...and as I said, there is no problem in playing the quicktime file in VLC media player, and flash and windows media files are also ok. So it seems the problem is only for quicktime files played in quicktime player...and I just updated the quicktime for the latest version...
strange, right?

Shiv Kumar    April 29, 2008 08:04 PM

Yes that is strange :). If you know someone with a MAC I'd ask them to try the quicktime ersion on a MAC. I know that the Windows Quicktime player behaves differently than the one on the MAC in some other cases.

It could just be that the Quicktime player on Windows is not on par with the one on the MAC.

Karl Bib    April 29, 2008 08:44 PM

Ok, will do - thanks a lot!

Tyson X    May 01, 2008 06:02 PM

Very useful. Answered a lot of questions i had. -Yes, YouTube does Massacre my videos so i don't even bother putting them on there. I'm glad someone finally made a website that allows 720p.

Derek Nassler    May 06, 2008 10:05 PM

Media Encoder Format option does not have H.264 as an option

It has the following "Format:" options only: QuickTime, Adobe Flash, Real Media, Windows Media. The only way to get H.264 is to select the QuickTime option. Another problem is that the audio codecs for quicktime export in the Media Encoder do not have an option for AAC... they only have what appear to be lossless audio formats: Linear PCM, A-Law 2:1, Apple Lossless, IMA 4:1, MACE 3:1, MACE 6:1, QDesign Music 2, etc. Where is AAC?

Shiv Kumar    May 06, 2008 11:00 PM

Derek,

H.264 is a codec while Quicktime is a container. Technically, a container can support any codec and Flash Video (flv) and Window Media both support the H.264 codec. PPro CS3 does not support these combination however.

Im Media Encoder, you can choose the H.264 "Format" and AAC audio codec and then choose a "preset" that could end up in a Quicktime file, or flv file etc.

Pierre Francois    May 24, 2008 05:28 AM

Adobe Export Settings

Hello Shiv,

i am having trouble exporting with adobe premiere. Currently using 1.5
i am using a sony DV2100 DV PAL camera.

i have 2 questions.

why do i have lines when theres a movement in the video? a hand wave for example. you can see lines AFTER exporting it.

What is the best setting for best quality?
the best i ve found so far for me is using
MPEG 1 - Main concept MPEG codec, Quality 5, 1.095 CCIR 525 lines (NTSC) - 720X480, 29.97 non drop, CBR, birate 140000 - the rest is unchanged.
(i use NTSC here because if i capture in PAL, with a PAL project, the image size is different - my project has to be in NTSC to work well - i dont get it.)

the quality is lets say "ok" - its not as good as original footage.
but those lines!!! Arrgh!!!

WHY?!!


thank you very much if you can help me or tell me what to change or look at or ask or whatever!

best reagrds,

PF

Shiv Kumar    May 24, 2008 05:40 AM

Pierre,

The lines are due to interlaced footage. You need to deinterlace in order to get rid of the lines.

I've mentioned the best settings for online video in this blog. I think H.264 code is far better than MPEG 1. For better quality you need to up the bitrate.

Pierre Francois    May 25, 2008 01:47 AM

OMG

MY LINES ARE GOOONNNNE

WOOOO WOOOO

thank you very much!!

   May 25, 2008 01:54 AM

You're welcome Pierre

Anthony Vivi    June 08, 2008 07:07 PM

Encoding help?

I tried rendering using your suggestions ( I think) and wound up with a 17 GB file for a 2 1/2 Minute clip. What size file approximately should I wind up with to upload?

Shiv Kumar    June 08, 2008 07:27 PM

Well, at 3000KB per second, you'll get 3000 x * 60 * 2.5 = 450000 which is approx. 450MB.

Anthony Vivi    June 09, 2008 10:24 AM

Thanks. I will try it again.