Shiv Kumar
 Hobbyist Filmmaker / Editor

Story Telling – Canon XHA1 and the Letus35 Extreme

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December 15, 2007 01:59 AM  Views: 1696   Favorited: 1 Favorite It Comments: 15
Filed Under:  Cinematography, Videography
Tags:  Canon 40D, Canon 85mm f/1.8, Canon XHA1, Letus35 Extreme
 

One late December weekend Rebecca (a friend and co-worker) and I set out to do some shooting. She was using her digital SLR, a Canon 40D and I had just received my Letus35 Extreme a day or two earlier and I was very eager to test it out with my Canon XHA1 video camera.

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We went out to horse country near here in the late afternoon/evening so we could catch some evening light. Rebecca took out her Canon 50mm f/1.4 prime lens and set off down the road, while I setup the camera, adapter, rails and a Canon 85mm f/1.8 along with my Libec LS 55M tripod. This is a “built” tripod (read that as heavy). So off I went lugging my rig over my shoulders (Not sure how anyone else does this).

During the course of an hour or two we did some casual shooting. The horses…well, they had the weekend off (honest, I didn’t know they got the weekend off). We got a few shots of them, out in the distance though. Oh, and I tried very hard to get Rebecca in the frame but each time she discovered me, she’d walk off in the other direction, knowing full well that I won’t be able to keep pace with her (what, with my rig and all).

I wanted this shoot to be different; I wanted to move to the next level (level 2 I think). I’d regurgitate the words of wisdom in every book I’d read off late (on cinematography/photography), every piece of good advise I was given by people in this field. People I hold in high regard. Pan slowly, tilt slowly. Be thoughtful of your composition, don’t just concentrate on the subject (foreground), watch the background, etc. etc. Oh and for those of you reading this blog who don’t know, the Letus35 Extreme, like all other 35mm adapters in the market today, it's all manual focus. And to make it harder still, I was using an 85mm f/1.8 (read that as shallow depth of field). So while I’m trying to keep all of the above in the foreground of my brain I’m also trying to having to focus using the camera’s view finder (no, are you kidding, I don’t have a field monitor, that’ll be too easy). You remember the feeling you had when you started driving and you had to remember to do all these things simultaneously; the clutch, throttle, break, steering, gears, look in front, behind, on the sides and you were supposed to keep the car on the road at all times *and* not hit anyone? That’s kind of how I was felt. I know one day I’ll be doing all this without thinking.

The shoot’s over, the sun’s set and we’re headed back. “I definitely got a few keepers”, I think to myself. That’s usually what I think anyway. I’ll shoot about an hour of tape and end up with 5-10 minutes of usable footage at most. I’ve only just begun as a videographer, what can I say? The facts are blatantly obvious after transferring the footage onto the editing bay. But I also got to thinking that I’ve seen some truly incredible and inspiring videos shot by very talented people and sure I can produce a video with various (good) takes all edited into a video I can post online and get people’s feedback so I can improve my skills. But what I'd really like to do is tell a story with my Canon XHA1 and Letus35 Extreme. Shucks, I should have had this thought *before* I started shooting, not after (stupid).

After looking at the footage I had and clipping out the good takes, I looked at them and re-looked and them to get some inspiration. Something is happening. It’s all looking pretty good to me. Actually I was very excited with what I was seeing. But what story can I tell?

With video editing software  (Adobe Production Premium) at my disposal I set out to tell my story. I picked a sound track I’d recently work with for a customer and started down the editing route. Folks, editing makes the movies you like and so editing is key. In fact I love the editing part. Editing HDV is a bit slow, even if you have the baddest, meanest hardware available today (which I do). It's when things start falling in place that it gets really exciting and a lot of fun. It's important to  get the music to tell its own story. By that, what I mean is that the music you choose plays a very important role in setting the mood for the viewer. Also keep in mind that your cuts, wipes, fades, dissolves etc. should ideally be in step with the music. So while I’m trying to tell a story I’m also “listening” to the music and making cuts/dissolves etc. in step with the beat or using certain footage in a certain place because the music and footage go well (at least I think so).

Let me know if you enjoyed the visuals, the story and anything else you might want to say.

See the Video here

Comments



Will Mahoney    May 16, 2008 01:20 PM

I feel you.

Shiv,
I totally feel you on this one. I'm just starting out myself and am really trying to get to, as you say, Level 2. My most recent trials have been with color correcting.

Well, you mentioned something specific in your post that really struck a chord with me. You compared shooting video (at least when starting out) to learning to drive. When you first start driving you're freaking out: "my god, I've got to watch the speed, work the clutch and shifter, use my turn signals, look at all of these mirrors, instantly see and recognize road signs, oh and keep the car in the lane, use the brake pedal, etc."

It's all a bit overwhelming at first. Sure, it's complicated, but things become automatic after awhile.

But I understand what you are saying and I feel the same way. Keep up the good work.

Shiv Kumar    May 16, 2008 01:38 PM

Hey Will,

Thanks! I'm glad someone else can relate to this! I don't feel like this today, but I remember very clearly how I felt in the early days. And I think it's important to rmember because then you can related to others who are just starting down this route.

David Robinson    May 22, 2008 06:23 AM

Hi Shiv,

very interesting reading.

I've had my xh-a1 for about 9 months now and also want to move onto the next level.
I've been looking long and hard at the Letus extreme but was bothered that I'd need an external monitor to get good results from it...and I really don't have the ??? for an external monitor on top of all the stuff I'd need with the Letus!

It's good to read that you are using yours through the view finder...and getting great results with it too I must add.

My sticking point at the moment is what lens to get 1st with it. I'm leaning towards a 50mm f1.8. I mostly use my camera for indie film work, so figure this would be a good starter lens.

Anyway, keep up the good work and I look forward to following your exploits with the Canon and the Letus.

David Robinson    May 22, 2008 06:26 AM

Typo in the above post...the question marks should be UK currency signs!!!

Shiv Kumar    May 22, 2008 06:48 AM

Hi David,
Glad you liked the post. Personally I love to hear about what was going on in people's minds when the present the end result.

I've been meaning to write about this very thing. I've been asked by a lot of people what their first lens should be and it's difficult to answer this on account of the following:
1. You’re buying a 35mm adapter because you want a shallow DOF
2. I don’t know your style and so don’t know the framing, light conditions etc.

The first point itself is quite perplexing from a technical aspect. So I generally need to ask people how well they understand f stops and what 1/2 a stop of light loss really means to them. Or if they know that a telephoto lens will produce a far shallower DOF then a normal (50mm) lens or wide lens.

Because the amount of light you typically have during your shoots will determine what I recommend (technically speaking of course) it will help me to know the kind of light (sun light or man made) and the amount of light you have available. You see because if you could use a good zoom lens (a fast lens) then you wouldn’t need to buy a multitude of prime lenses and then you get the best of both worlds.

This video was shot using an 85mm f/1.8 in sun light with the aperture of the SLR lens wide open. If you look at this video, you’ll get an idea of what a 50mm f/1.4 would give you. Note that the distance between the lens and the first glass (in that row of glasses) was the minimum the lens could handle (I think it’s about 1.5 feet). But with a 50mm lens the only way to get a sense of shallow DOF is to be really close to the subject.

Do you have a still camera (DSLR) available?

David Robinson    May 22, 2008 07:13 AM

The filming is usually split evenly between indoors and outdoors. I've also got access to some lighting equipment...I've just finished my 2nd year at University doing Creative Lens Media and so can grab lighting off them when needed. Ideally though, it would mostly be under natural light.

It's all a bit of a minefield regarding lenses when you 1st start out, and with my budget being very tight I don't want to buy something that would be of little use to my needs. I'd really like something to give a decent DOF and try to replicate that elusive 'film look'...which of course isn't just about DOF but also lighting, camera movement, composition,editing,etc...

I've been VERY impressed with what I've seen from the Letus but this whole 'lens thing' is the part that is confusing me slightly.

The only stills camera I have is an ageing Fuji Finepix 6900 Zoom.

I appreciate your quick response...thank you.

Shiv Kumar    May 22, 2008 07:40 AM

You say, “Decent DOF”, that would mean what you have without the Letus. I know people seem to use DOF to mean shallow DOF.

I completely understand your confusion because I’ve been there not too long ago. So I’ll try and help as best as I can.

What kind of framing? How many people in the frame and how much space do you have to shoot in. You see with a telephoto lens you need more space (distance between camera and subject) to achieve the same framing you would with a 50mm lens. However, with a telephoto lens you’ll get a shallower DOF than you would with a 50mm lens.

For the shot that’s the thumbnail of this video Rebecca was about 15 feet from the camera (using an 85mm lens). There was a huge amount of space behind her as well so you get the beautiful shallow DOF effect. In the shot (earlier on) where she’s facing camera left is a relatively tight shot she was about 8-10 feet from the camera (same lens) . Notice how the DOF got even shallower (because the subject is closer) even though the objects behind her were not that far away (across a two lane country road).

A Zoom lens would give you the best of both worlds. You can go wide when you want to and zoom in when you want to. I use a 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 lens frequently in sunlight. I have some footage that I’ve not posted yet. But it looks great and gives me the flexibility I need as well. The lens came with my DSLR so I didn’t go buy it for this purpose. I do plan of buying a 70-200mm f/2.8 Canon lens. It’s about $1100 here in the US brand new. Depending on the space available to you (especially indoors) even a 70mm telephoto might be too tight (framing).

You could buy a fast 28-200 Zoom. Or a slow 28-200 zoom (about $360). You know, the more I think about it the more I'm tending towards reccomending a zoom as your first lens.

David Robinson    May 22, 2008 10:57 AM

From reading your last post, I'm definitely more inclined to get a zoom lens first. It will certainly give me some good flexibility both indoors and out. The framing can vary from day to day really, depending on the assignment we have and so a good 'all rounder' would be a good starting point.

I've read that when setting up the Letus, you use your camera to zoom in on the ground glass and get the framing correct. Does this mean that any zoom you do afterwards is only on the installed lens and you leave the camera zoom alone?

I will also have to decide what make lens to get to!?


Sorry about the constant questions, it's just really good to be able to pick the brains of someone who has been through all of this before.

Shiv Kumar    May 22, 2008 11:08 AM

David,

Yes on the zoom lens, however be aware that on most zoom lenses (read that as cheaper) the f stop varies as you change the focal length. Which means, as you zoom in you need a lot more light. A typical zoom lens will range from f/3.5-5.6. That's a whole stop which translates to you'll need double the amount of light to get the same exposure (given everything else remains unchanged). This may not be a big deal outdoors during the day. But soon after sun down or indoors this could make or break the shoot.

But, if you can afford a fast (fast means a lens that can open up to 2.8 or so) zoom lens then it's well worth the cost because not only does a fast lens allow you to shoot in lower light conditions, but due to the larger aperture you get a shallow DOF as well and in time, saves you from having to buy a multitude of other lenses.

Since you're a member of XR, how bout we transfer over to the newsgroups?

David Robinson    May 22, 2008 11:16 AM

Thanks again Shiv.

Still finding my way around XR and have no problem going over into the newsgroups...you just may have to send me a link to find the correct one though!!


Will have a look around at some lenses. I suppose I could save some cash buying used from ebay, but I'm always very wary of buying used items from there.

Shiv Kumar    May 22, 2008 11:28 AM

Yes, I'll send you a link :).

On the top right side of the page you'll find the "ExposureRoom Menus". There you should see a link for Newsgroups.

I'm getting someone to move this over to the NGs so you'll get a blast of emails that each contain a link to the NG.

In the mean time you might want to take a look at this.
http://exposureroom.com/news/view.aspx/26/

Alastair Brown    November 07, 2008 05:43 PM

Captivating

Very well done. There is a lot of footage from the LETUS 35 EXTREME out there, yours captured the look of film and then some. I am now sold on this unit, 210%

It seems very likely that someone can get lost in time trying to capture the beauty of everything around them with one of these units, while smiling the entire time. This is where I would like to be myself.

Thanks for sharing,

Michael G.
movielighter@gmail.com

Ralph Lindsen    August 28, 2009 11:19 AM

i want one too! haha

that looks very good. I love shallow DOF and i am saving for a 35mm adapter. Dus de letus flip the image right side up?

Ow, about my foot video, it is going to be used in a short. Reshot though, i use these kind of video's to try out stuff, to see if it works. Thanks for the compliment :)

Shiv Kumar    August 28, 2009 11:33 AM

Ralph,

Yes, the Letus (and now most 35mm adapters) flip the image. The Letus FE (Flip Enhanced) was the form model that fliped the image.

Make sure to post your reshoot :)

RAJ NONGTHOMBAM    September 26, 2009 11:43 AM

Hi Shivji
it is really nice.I m just spell-bound with the art and craft that you executed. I m also looking for such kinda stuff here in India. But unfortunately,these 35mm adapter is not a common and popular phenomenon here. People are not aware of it and moreover,they dont want to change the ways of doing things.
I just come across with few adapters like Letus,Redrockmicro,PS Technik,SG PRO,JAG 35,Brevis35 etc. And I find JAG35 promising & inexpensive but not quite sure. On the top of it, non of the brands mentioned above seem available in India. Please gimme some ways ahead.
Thanks.



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