Crop your Videos to a certain Aspect Ratio

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Posted by: Shiv Kumar
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August 18, 2008 07:01 PM
Filed Under: How To, New Feature
Tags: Aspect Ratio, CinemaScope, Letterboxing, Video Encoding
This article pertains to the Crop To Aspect feature ExposureRoom members have available to them at the time of uploading their assets. Use this feature in order to remove Letterboxing from your videos. To be able to use this feature correctly, you MUST know the final aspect ratio you want your transcoded videos to be in. The value you provide in the Crop To Aspect box in the Upload Asset screen is the decimal number. For example:
 
HD Aspect Ratio
16:9 = 16/9 = 1.78 (Enter 1.78 for this case)
 
CinemaScope Aspect Ratio
2.35:1 = 2.35 (Enter 2.35 for this case)
 
Note: This feature does not apply to Pillar boxed videos. Please also note that your original video is not touched. Only the transcoded videos will be cropped.
 

Image 1: Screen shot showing the option for the new Crop To Aspect Feature
 

HD Videos Letterboxed to SD Aspect Ratio

This is one case where you might want to use this feature. Please note that this kind of thing can and should be “fixed” at the time of encoding your videos before uploading them to ExposureRoom. In order to learn how you can fix this issue at the time of encoding, please take a look at this article:
 
If you don’t have the original with you or for some reason you are not able to fix this issue at the time of encoding you can use this feature to remove the Letterboxing. Please take a look at Image2 and Image 3 below to get a sense of "before" and "after" to see if this feature applies to your video and if this is really what you want to do.
 
Image 2: Before - HD Video (16:9 Aspect ratio) in SD (4:3 Aspect ratio) with Letterboxing
 
Image 3: After - Video Cropped to HD Aspect ratio (16:9)
 

HD Aspect Video (16:9) Letterboxed to CinemaScope Aspect (2.35:1)

This is obviously an intentional choice you’ve made. You’ve shot your video within the confines of a CinemaScope frame and with the intent to letterbox your videos to produce a CinemaScope aspect picture. The video is still in the HD aspect ratio (16:9) but the picture (due to the letterboxing) is in CinemaScope aspect ratio (2.35:1). If this case applies to your video please take a look at Image 4 and Image 5 to get a sense of "before" and "after" to ensure you want to crop your video to the aspect ratio of your choice.
 
Image 4: Before  - HD Video (16:9 Aspect Ratio) Letterboxed to CinemaScope Aspect Ratio (2.35:1)
 
Image 5: After - HD Video Cropped to CinemaScope (2.35:1) Aspect Ratio
 
Once again, this is something you can do yourself, before uploading your video to ExposureRoom. However it typically involves one more encoding step which takes a bit more time than the original encode did. But this step could potentially reduce the quality of your final video unless you’re dead sure of what you’re doing. This feature was introduced so as to save you the time and headache in getting it right every time.
 

Cropping your Videos: Providing the Aspect Ratio Value

As you can imagine there are many different pieces of information we would need in order to be able to crop your videos just the way you’d want. Since we have the height and width of the original video you upload, we figured that the simplest way to ask you how you want your videos cropped is to ask for the aspect ratio you want the cropped version to be in.
 
This may present a problem to some of you still getting to grips with the math. So let’s get to the bottom of this last step. For this discussion we assume your video is 1280 pixels wide. If your video is really an HD video in SD aspect and you want it cropped to HD aspect, the Crop To Aspect value is simply 1.78. Please take a look at Image 6 below. Simply dived the width (1280) by the intended height (720) and you get 1.7777777777777778. Round that off to 1.78.
 

Image 6: How to get at the Crop Aspect Value
 
In order to crop to Cinemascope aspect you need to know the resulting height of the image in your video. We’ve found quite a few videos that are either already cropped or have letterboxes but the final height of the image varies, resulting in varying aspect ratios such as 2.35, 2.36, 2.37, 2.38. In order to get what you expect, please measure the image height of your video and then divide the width by the this height to arrive at the aspect ratio you should use.
 
Please note that an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 (or dimensions of 1280x544) is the ideal because the width and height are both divisible by 16 and video players (including Flash video) perform best when video dimensions are divisible by 16.

Comments



kim hyun moo    October 04, 2008 01:43 AM

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theo rossi    February 12, 2009 08:54 PM

perfect

thanks for the info :)
My editor does not allow 1280X544 and the best I can do is 1280X720
Does this have any effect at all?
(Am using Edius-5 NLE)

Bo Sundvall    February 22, 2009 05:33 AM

EDIUS

Hello. I have not used this site, but think I can help you a bit. Firstly, I think the instructions are referring to uploading (in your case) a 16:9 file that is letterboxed to 2.35:1. In EDIUS, you can create this letterboxing to get the proper dimensions.

Then, just export a Canopus Lossless avi or something like it. You can then open up procoder express (as a standalone rather than from within EDIUS) and can convert that AVI (in this example) to a quicktime movie. You will then have cropping options. You can crop out the black bars, and if you did your region properly in EDIUS, the result will be 1280x544. I have done this on numerous occasions. Play with your settings, and do multi-pass. It will take a lot longer, but will result in a smaller filesize that will look a lot better than single pass. Just play with the bit rate until you find one that works well for your footage (depending on length and how much movement is in there).

Hope that helps you. I think they were saying above, that you can export 16:9 with letterboxing to scope, and then exposure room will allow you to crop the letterboxing out down to 544 height for pure 2.35:1 aspect ratio... But, again, I have never uploaded anything here, so that part is just speculation based on what I read.

Later,
Jason

Todd Cash    March 04, 2010 09:12 PM

Wonderful

Wonderful explanation! Thank you.

Mark Kempner    March 15, 2010 03:03 AM

cropping 720 x 576 sd video

i have found the ideal encode settings to play back well.....but I still have trouble understanding aspect ratios! I have black letter box bars with a SD video which is 720x576 widescreen footage......see widescreen showreel video for Stephen beckett..... I tried the 1.78 crop setting when I first load up to exp room....but still get letter box and I think-stretched video? I output the video as H264 I use SQUARE pixels as its widescreen for the web). .....I use premiere pro cs3 or cs4. Should I divide 720 by 576 and use 1.25 as the crop setting?

this is for 16.9 sd video not HD

thanks

mark

Shiv Kumar    March 15, 2010 04:18 AM

Mark,

I'm a bit confused since 720x576 is 5:4 and not 16:9.

Now you have letter boxes because you probably want to make the 5:4 footage look "wider". If you've got the height of your letterboxes correct then you can determine the new height of your video and dividing the width by the new height will give you the crop aspect you need to put in the field provided when you upload a video to ExposureRoom.

Since you have PPro CS3/4 you can "crop" the video at the time of encoding to the height and width you desire. In the adobe encoder on the left have side of the screen (where you see a sample of your footage) you can choose to crop.

Most people don't have software that allows them to crop at the time of encoded and as a result they need to go through multiple steps in order to crop. In such cases the feature we provide is a bonus since not only does it save you a few steps but we"re re-encoding anyway, so cropping your video at the same time is well worth it.

In order to get a 16:9 aspect from 720x576 footage your letter boxes need to be 86 pixels in height. That is 86 pixels for the top and 86 pixels for the bottom.

The math for that is:
720 / 1.78 = 404
That is the height needs to be 404. So
576-404 = 172
Since you want chop off the height equally from the top and bottom
172/2 = 86

Keep in mind also that you don't need to have the letter boxing in your video in order to use the crop feature. You just need to make sure you know the crop aspect you desire and that the footage you've got works with the new aspect ratio.

mark kempner    March 16, 2010 01:12 PM

SORTED IT

Thanks Shiv....I understand now...I think. I also worked out in Prem as you say...one can trim in Prem prior to uploading...and so I set it to 404...and the video works nicely now without letterbox look.

Alejandro Cock    April 28, 2010 10:20 PM

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